I also think that a private club should be able to have whoever it wants as a member based on whatever criteria it chooses.
And I think that anybody who thinks it's okay to kick kids out of a pool like that is a stupid fucking piece of shit.
Above and beyond any question of whether the pool owners were within their rights, I think who thinks it was okay for them to do that is a stupid fucking hateful piece of shit.
I'm not applying that label to you... I am inviting you to check it out for fit. Why is it even a priority for you to point out that a private club should be able to have whoever it wants as a member? Why is that viewpoint worth a sentence and the time it takes to post it when this shit is going on?
And where does it stop?
We live in a specialized society where almost no one is an island, and it takes a bare minimum level of privilege and opportunity for anyone to truly be self-sufficient. So if private organizations can choose who to do business with and who not to do business with, absolutely and with no limits, you have just made murder legal. You have. Because people can't survive in urbanized America without access to goods and services. If there is the wrong balance of majority and minority, and the majority has an absolute right to refuse business with the minority (or vice versa if there's a huge power imbalance, hypothetically), then it is legal to consign someone to slow death by starvation and deprivation.
So where do you draw the line? You might feel it's okay to go, "Okay, well, obviously you have to let everyone buy food and purchase medical care, but no one's entitled to use a pool or go to a private school or join a private club. Those aren't essential services." But then where do you... you know, what. No. I'm not even going to finish this chain of thought. If you don't understand what kind of evil... not just douchebaggery but evil... you're advocating for under the delusion that you're standing up for individual rights.
You know what? Fuck it. I'm done. You're not blocked, but shut the fuck up and educate yourself.
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on 2009-07-10 08:54 am (UTC)I also think that a private club should be able to have whoever it wants as a member based on whatever criteria it chooses.
And I think that anybody who thinks it's okay to kick kids out of a pool like that is a stupid fucking piece of shit.
Above and beyond any question of whether the pool owners were within their rights, I think who thinks it was okay for them to do that is a stupid fucking hateful piece of shit.
I'm not applying that label to you... I am inviting you to check it out for fit. Why is it even a priority for you to point out that a private club should be able to have whoever it wants as a member? Why is that viewpoint worth a sentence and the time it takes to post it when this shit is going on?
And where does it stop?
We live in a specialized society where almost no one is an island, and it takes a bare minimum level of privilege and opportunity for anyone to truly be self-sufficient. So if private organizations can choose who to do business with and who not to do business with, absolutely and with no limits, you have just made murder legal. You have. Because people can't survive in urbanized America without access to goods and services. If there is the wrong balance of majority and minority, and the majority has an absolute right to refuse business with the minority (or vice versa if there's a huge power imbalance, hypothetically), then it is legal to consign someone to slow death by starvation and deprivation.
So where do you draw the line? You might feel it's okay to go, "Okay, well, obviously you have to let everyone buy food and purchase medical care, but no one's entitled to use a pool or go to a private school or join a private club. Those aren't essential services." But then where do you... you know, what. No. I'm not even going to finish this chain of thought. If you don't understand what kind of evil... not just douchebaggery but evil... you're advocating for under the delusion that you're standing up for individual rights.
You know what? Fuck it. I'm done. You're not blocked, but shut the fuck up and educate yourself.