Briefly: On The Importance Of Word Order
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Pop quiz:
Q.: What's the difference between someone you see using a device to assist their mobility or an accommodation for people with disabilities who doesn't obviously need it and one who obviously doesn't need it?
A.: Nothing that you can tell by looking.
Therefore, if you find yourself saying something along the lines of "It makes me mad when I see someone using a wheelchair/motorized cart/priority bus seat when they obviously don't need it." or "Motorized carts are fine for people who need them, but most of the people I see using them are just lazy", you might want to stop talking as the sounds that are coming out of your mouth are clearly gibberish and you're in danger of embarrassing yourself.
For extra credit:
Q.: Under what circumstances is it appropriate to mock/snark/judge/stare at/comment on/interrogate somebody using such an accommodation or assistive device?
A.: Never.
Not even if you've seen the same person walk, stand unaided for a long period of time, or dance a merry jig... the world doesn't divide neatly into perfectly able-bodied people and people who need devices to aid their mobility all the time. You don't know what it cost that person to dance a jig or why it was worth it to them to do so. You don't know what trade-offs they're making every time they decide to do something you do for granted or accept what assistance is available.
If you judge someone for using a scooter or cane after you saw them go ballroom dancing, what is the lesson that you (as one small part of a larger society that is also sending this message) are sending people? That some people have fun and other people have wheelchairs, but nobody gets to have both?
Not even if the person is fat, to a degree that you--with your in-depth medical training and ability to take in a person's medical history with a glance--have determined is unhealthy, their fault, and easily fixed by anyone with willpower. Seriously. You don't know why your fellow shoppers might be using a motorized cart. You don't know why their bodies are shaped like they are. The only thing those two things are guaranteed to have in common is that neither one is any of your business*.
Not even if you're doing it in private, at home, with only one other person who knows that you don't have any prejudice against those with disabilities and wouldn't be mocking/judging without good reason. First, even if you're alone you're not doing this in isolation. You're participating in (and reinforcing and spreading) a larger meme, one that has actual consequences for real people. Second, your judgment does not magically become more insightful, necessary, or appropriate just because you waited to get home to express it. Third, if you couldn't conceal your scorn any longer than it took you to get to an audience you know will be sympathetic and appreciative of it, what makes you think you were concealing it that well in the first place?
The fat person on the scooter at Wal-Mart, the person without any crutches or cane who plops down in the priority seat, the person who explains how their chronic pain, depression, or anxiety disorder impacts their life one day while talking about how much fun they had doing A Thing That People Do the next day... these are all pretty much considered to be "socially acceptable targets". Snarking them isn't being edgy, it's buying into a mindset that is relentlessly mainstream and conformist. Someone calling you on snarking them isn't calling "The PC Police" on you or oppressing you... if marginalized people did have a police force and the power to oppress, they wouldn't be marginalized.
*I say "guaranteed" because someone might point out that the two things could be related; i.e., the same medical condition that limits mobility might be directly or indirectly contributing to the individual's weight. But you know what? It's still nobody else's businesses, and a person doesn't need that kind of "excuse" to be fat and have a disability at the same time.
Q.: What's the difference between someone you see using a device to assist their mobility or an accommodation for people with disabilities who doesn't obviously need it and one who obviously doesn't need it?
A.: Nothing that you can tell by looking.
Therefore, if you find yourself saying something along the lines of "It makes me mad when I see someone using a wheelchair/motorized cart/priority bus seat when they obviously don't need it." or "Motorized carts are fine for people who need them, but most of the people I see using them are just lazy", you might want to stop talking as the sounds that are coming out of your mouth are clearly gibberish and you're in danger of embarrassing yourself.
For extra credit:
Q.: Under what circumstances is it appropriate to mock/snark/judge/stare at/comment on/interrogate somebody using such an accommodation or assistive device?
A.: Never.
Not even if you've seen the same person walk, stand unaided for a long period of time, or dance a merry jig... the world doesn't divide neatly into perfectly able-bodied people and people who need devices to aid their mobility all the time. You don't know what it cost that person to dance a jig or why it was worth it to them to do so. You don't know what trade-offs they're making every time they decide to do something you do for granted or accept what assistance is available.
If you judge someone for using a scooter or cane after you saw them go ballroom dancing, what is the lesson that you (as one small part of a larger society that is also sending this message) are sending people? That some people have fun and other people have wheelchairs, but nobody gets to have both?
Not even if the person is fat, to a degree that you--with your in-depth medical training and ability to take in a person's medical history with a glance--have determined is unhealthy, their fault, and easily fixed by anyone with willpower. Seriously. You don't know why your fellow shoppers might be using a motorized cart. You don't know why their bodies are shaped like they are. The only thing those two things are guaranteed to have in common is that neither one is any of your business*.
Not even if you're doing it in private, at home, with only one other person who knows that you don't have any prejudice against those with disabilities and wouldn't be mocking/judging without good reason. First, even if you're alone you're not doing this in isolation. You're participating in (and reinforcing and spreading) a larger meme, one that has actual consequences for real people. Second, your judgment does not magically become more insightful, necessary, or appropriate just because you waited to get home to express it. Third, if you couldn't conceal your scorn any longer than it took you to get to an audience you know will be sympathetic and appreciative of it, what makes you think you were concealing it that well in the first place?
The fat person on the scooter at Wal-Mart, the person without any crutches or cane who plops down in the priority seat, the person who explains how their chronic pain, depression, or anxiety disorder impacts their life one day while talking about how much fun they had doing A Thing That People Do the next day... these are all pretty much considered to be "socially acceptable targets". Snarking them isn't being edgy, it's buying into a mindset that is relentlessly mainstream and conformist. Someone calling you on snarking them isn't calling "The PC Police" on you or oppressing you... if marginalized people did have a police force and the power to oppress, they wouldn't be marginalized.
*I say "guaranteed" because someone might point out that the two things could be related; i.e., the same medical condition that limits mobility might be directly or indirectly contributing to the individual's weight. But you know what? It's still nobody else's businesses, and a person doesn't need that kind of "excuse" to be fat and have a disability at the same time.
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on 2010-02-25 05:27 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2010-02-25 05:33 pm (UTC)Could this be someone perfectly able bodied making use of a sticker/placard that was intended for another user of the car? It could! But a casual observer is not called to or equipped to judge that.
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on 2010-02-25 06:11 pm (UTC)In my day to day life, I don’t need anything to help me get around. However, when I have a big panic attack my legs turn into when spaghetti. I’ve known this for 10 years and I’ve known that I should be carrying a cane for situations that pose a high risk for big panic attacks.
Do I?
No. I don’t because I worry about the whole not-really-being-disabled and look-at-the-fat-idiot thing, so I tend avoid things like concerts which I would really enjoy and spend a lot of time worrying at the things I do go to.
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on 2010-02-25 06:18 pm (UTC)P.S. I love your icon.
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on 2010-02-25 06:23 pm (UTC)And yeah. I like the idea of also having something solid and thus grounding.
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on 2010-02-25 08:23 pm (UTC)That and my come and go limp make me way too self conscious knowing how often I hear people make those kind of comments. I wish the world could grasp not all disabilities are 24/7 and not all disabled people have a type that acts as a easy "Hi I am disabled sign". Don't get me started on the disrespect towards anxiety disorders as legitimate life altering issues.
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on 2010-02-25 09:30 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2010-02-25 10:04 pm (UTC)Another Perspective
on 2010-02-25 10:28 pm (UTC)In our store we have 6 of the mechanical carts. And it's very frustrating when a customer who does need the cart can't get one because they are all in use. And without a doubt there are people who do take the carts who don't need them. It's not my place (or anyones place) to judge who does or doesn't need the cart, but at least it is recognized that it does happen. It happens a lot less then people complain about though, as people are wont to complain about anything. I've had to discipline associates in the past for issues relating to this topic, and I am with you 100% that it isn't ANYONES place to judge who needs the carts. The only person who can judge that is the person themselves.
To me people using the chairs who don't need them is something you need to treat like theft in the store, and by that I mean it's something that you recognize does happens but that it should never change how you treat any of the customers. People steal, but I'm not going to treat my customers like thieves; just as some people use the carts that don't need to, but that is neither a reason nor a justification to make that judgement or to ever treat the customer any differently.
There is no way to really tell what someones real need is, nor would I want there to be. Only an individual can judge whether the cart is necessary. I just think those people who don't need the carts that use them anyways really should think about who else they might be hurting.
Re: Another Perspective
on 2010-02-25 10:37 pm (UTC)The frustration is that there isn't enough carts to go around. The idea that this is the fault of people who are lazy/greedy/not actually needing them is just supposition. It might be true at any given time, but it's hard to do any good entertaining that viewpoint and easy to do harm.
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on 2010-02-25 10:10 pm (UTC)Members of marginalized groups do sometimes attempt to organize police force-y groups. Non-marginalized culture tends to label such activities as radicalism, terrorism, etc., regardless of the actions of those groups.
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on 2010-02-25 10:14 pm (UTC)no subject
on 2010-02-26 12:25 pm (UTC)What I meant to add to your comment on non-marginalized people calling "the PC Police" is that any attempts made by marginalized groups to defend themselves (verbally, mentally, physically, or in any other way) are immediately dismissed/denigrated by the non-marginalized society in one way or another.
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on 2010-02-25 11:16 pm (UTC)I work in long term care, and am faced daily with the dilemma: Is the person who doesn't want therapy, a shower, to get out of bed, etc. really in large amounts of pain, or are they "just being lazy?" It is a part of my job that sucks. A lot. It is something that occasionally sends me into a full on Mackenzie Blaise internal monologue where I debate this question with myself at length. I spend a great deal of time and worry on trying to evaluate whether or not someone is "faking."
I still cannot be sure. Even if, after a little nagging, my resident pops and does really well in their therapy session, I don't know what they were feeling when they first said "no."
I think I want to link this post in one I'm writing for Huffpost about making assumptions about people's motivations and intentions (If I finish writing it, that is. I have six other things I should do first).
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on 2010-02-26 06:34 am (UTC)As far as I can tell, "edgy" only means "cruel and obnoxious, but not aimed at the people I'm talking to", anymore. :/
Great piece - this is something that's pissed me off, more than once.
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on 2010-02-26 10:13 am (UTC)So... yeah. I'm working on it. But there needs to be more people like you articulating these things so well.
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on 2010-02-26 03:32 pm (UTC)When asked, she has to explain, "My legs have exactly X steps in them before my hip breaks again. Not years, steps. And I'm not wasting a single one of them getting to a fucking shopping cart, I'm going to dance at my wedding"
I couldn't agree more.
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on 2010-02-26 10:16 pm (UTC)The response I got was basically "WTF no you don't, if you did you wouldn't be having this conversation or any of the other conversations we've been having for the last couple days and you don't seem shy at all anyway."
It was... challenging trying to explain it to them in a way they would understand. I acclimate myself to new situations and people pretty damn fast, the anxiety precedes them, prevents me from seeking them out or accepting offers. In person after I've warmed up I am a charming, chatty, conversationalist who can sling a mean pun.
So, I was being told that I don't experience anything out of the norm, that I have no excuse, that everyone is nervous. Well, that may be true but I doubt the average person is routinely anxious to the point of rendering themselves bedridden to avoid the unknown, as I have been in the past.
That was longer than I wanted to make it... oh god I'm making it worse!!!
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on 2010-02-27 02:41 am (UTC)Bravo!
on 2010-02-27 03:51 am (UTC)On the other hand, at least around here, there are as many or more people who are very nice and helpful. They smile and talk to me, and actually make my day better for having briefly met them. They help me to get things off of higher shelves, and they ask if I need anything else. And I'm not just talking about employees of the stores, either. Other shoppers, who have no reason or responsibility to help me, do.
Anyway, thank you for writing this Ms. Erin. I am a huge fan of not only your stories, but also your ramblings here on Live Journal.